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Larry Oja Discusses Common Duct Electrolytic Oxyhydrogen

Addressed the ExtraOrdinary Technology conference in Salt Lake City on Thursday, July 29, 2004, 5:00 pm.  Perhaps the most well-presented paper at the conference, on a technology that is probably furthest along in the R&D and commercial sales and applications behind it.

Review by T. Cullen, Sterling D. Allan, Susan Carter
Pure Energy Systems

ER 1200 Brown's Gas Machine manufactured by George Wiseman's WaterTorch Collective

Larry gave a well-organized presentation on the production of common duct electrolytic oxyhydrogen, often referred to as Brown’s Gas after the researcher Yull Brown.  Brown’s Gas is produced from a special process of electrolysis of water that does not separate the hydrogen and oxygen.  The resulting gas is a high-energy mixture that exhibits unusual properties not found in typical mixtures of H₂ and O₂.

 One of the first researchers to describe common duct electrolytic oxy-hydrogen was Dr. William Rhodes.  In the early 1960’s, Dr. Rhodes received two U.S. patents (3262872 and 3310483) for methods of producing this unique gas.  He stated “Of all elements, hydrogen and oxygen should hold no secrets. Yet, in this example they do and have been troublesome."   Dr. Rhodes currently lives in Arizona . (See: Common Duct Electrolytic Oxy-Hydrogen)

 Yull Brown spent many years working with the gas in Australia .  He gave many public demonstrations and received his own patents (4010777 and 4081656).  Until his death in 1998, he was considered the world’s foremost expert on the gas.

 Larry Oja’s report was based mostly on the work of researcher George Wiseman of Eagle-Research.  Wiseman has built many Brown’s Gas electrolyzers and has written several books on the subject.  Eagle-Research has licensed their Brown’s Gas Technology to the WaterTorch Collective, Ltd. in 2001, who manufactures Brown’s Gas machines.  Larry is a distributor for the WaterTorch Collective.

 Larry had on display an ER-1200 WaterTorch (Brown’s Gas machine) manufactured by the WaterTorch Collective.  His display had a clear cover that allowed people to view inside the machine.  He mentioned that some companies have been making oxy-hydrogen generators for 40 years, particularly small machines used in the jewelry and dental industries. 

 He listed the following companies which sell Brown’s Gas machines:  Arizona Hydrogen, Better World Technologies (Dennis Lee), Best Korea, Best Norinco, Oweld, Mario Di Maio, Generating Solutions, Okai, Watergas, Stan Rubinstein, Siam Water Flame Co., H₂O2000, Eagle-Research, and Aqua Torch.

 What is Brown’s Gas?  Larry quoted George Wiseman, who says the answer depends on who you talk to and what you're really asking.

 The scientific answer for the constituents of Brown's Gas is:

The total mixture of gasses that evolve by electrolyzing water in an electrolyzer specifically designed NOT to separate the gasses.

The BG mixture consists of diatomic hydrogen, diatomic oxygen and water vapor.

  Technology Innovator Answer:

Eagle-Research Inc. defines Brown's Gas (BG) as:   The total mixture of gasses that evolve by electrolyzing water in an electrolyzer specifically designed NOT to separate the gasses.   The BG mixture consists of diatomic hydrogen, monatomic hydrogen, diatomic oxygen, monatomic oxygen, water vapor and electrically expanded water.

  Brown's Gas Users Answer:

The BG flame is a unique method for transmitting electrical energy directly into the atomic structure of materials, producing effects often unobtainable by any other means.

 In his presentation, Larry pointed out several myths about the gas, including making an atmospheric engine and using it for heating.  He described some applications that Brown’s gas does well, such as welding (other than Iron), cutting, pre-heating, flame drilling, flame polishing, and ceramics.

 He stated the gas can also be used for the following:

• Pure new H₂O manufacturing

• Detox H₂O

• Hydrated H₂O for health

• Muscle relaxing (as demonstrated by a Spokane Chiropractor)

• Speed healing of wounds

• Helps plants germinate

• Neutralization of radioactive waste

• Create new industrial materials

• Transmutation (two ways)

• Toxic waste disposal (can vaporize PVC’s)

• Recoverable ore

• Underwater breathing gas

• Makes metal rust resistant

• Can waterproof cement

• Turn feldspar into moonstone

 He described some of the advantages of using Brown’s Gas as a replacement for other torch gases:  less cost, increases productivity, safer.  He stated that Brown’s Gas cuts iron 30% faster than acetylene and that it cuts dirty metal without sputtering.   A video clip showed George Wiseman cutting and welding with the gas.  Larry also showed pictures of the gas being used to make glass bottles.

 After the presentation, Larry displayed the torch at his table and allowed people to view the machine and ask questions.  Later in the conference, he gave a demonstration of the gas.  Brown’s gas was easily able to punch small holes in coins provided by the attendees.  Larry showed the gas being lighter than air by filling a bag and releasing it.  It quickly disappeared from sight.  He also showed the gas cutting holes in steel. 

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