Bowman Magnet Motor Open Sourcing Project

Status: Project commenced Dec. 2003 with claim to a working device, which later, after three months, ended up running down due to demagnetization.  No replications were accomplished though several were attempted.

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Energy > Inexhaustible > Magnetic Motors > Bowman > Open Sourcing > Replications > In Progress > Mark Hayton

Mark Hayton's Replication of the Bowman Magnetic Motor

Focusing on replicating as close to Unit 0 as possible, while using only off-the shelf components.

Unit M.H.-1-2004

Delay: Need to Grind Shaft

From: Mark Hayton
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 6:06 AM
Subject: [PES_BMM] Unit M.H 1-2004 - Precision Ground Axel Rod

I have a slight delay. I found that I had not ordered a precision ground rod for my axel and when I try to put any of the collars or the gears on the rod, it is too bid and I would have to hammer it on.
Since I need the collars to slide easily on the rod until I tighten the screws so that I can adjust the rotor positions, I had to order a precision rod, which will be in by Tuesday, otherwise I would have been done and ready for the magnets today.

Mark

Mounting

From: Mark Hayton
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 8:09 PM
Subject: [PES_BMM] Unit M.H 1-2004 - Photos posted

I have posted some initial photos of my build so far, this was only
one day of work. I finally figured out how to mount the rotors onto
the axels with stock parts from McMaster, I will have to drill a few
small holes for pins, but the rotors will be able to be adjusted
both forward/back and at an angle around the axel. Once the SS-
Flanges come in from McMaster I will add the rotors. For now I am
going to add the gears and bears to the axel so that they can be
mounted. All my parts are either SS or Lexan.

Magnets are going to be in the first 2 weeks of March.

Mark


Bearings


clamps


gears


Lexan Base: front


Lexan Base: front, left


Lexan Base parts


Lexan Base layout


Lexan rotor layout


Lexan rotors


Lexan rotors (small)


Axels


Video & Photos Pending

From: Mark Hayton
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 8:20 PM
Subject: [PES_BMM] Unit M.H 1-2004 - Video of Build

I have shot a ton of video of my entire build process so far and
captured it to disk. It is too large to post since I have it in high
quality mode. And am editing it right now to only have the main
scenes of the build that are the best. All the these video segments
will go into a final instructional video/DVD if and when the Unit
starts running. I will be able to produce a full streaming version
of the build video once I am done that can be watched online. I
really hope I can get the motor to run since I will have the most
completely documented build I think there is so far. I have every
part number and source that I used and I have no custom pieces.

Also, I used no high end tools, only a skill saw, drill press and
sander. Anyone could make this motor in their garage, like I am.

So cross your fingers that this unit runs.. Good luck to the rest of
you as well.

Mark

Everything Here but Magnets

From: Mark Hayton
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 4:03 PM
Subject: [PES_BMM] Re: Unit M.H 1-2004 - Gears are in - ready to start building the Unit

I just got my F.W Bell 4048 Gaussmeter in today that I won on eBay.
I works great and has a transverse probe which will make it easier
to measure the gauss between the rotor magnets when I am tuning the
Unit. Everything is here except magnets, but I am going to start to
build the rest of the unit, now that my gears have arrived, really
looking forward to documenting the build in the anim area.

Mark

* * * *

From: Mark Hayton
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:46 AM
Subject: [PES_BMM] Re: flux line direction indicator

I received my MagnaProbe today, very, very cool, it really helps to
see the fields in action.

Mark

Buying Magnets

Sourcing > Magnets to Spec for $4.14 each by Adam's Magnets (Mark Hayton)

From: Mark Hayton
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 1:23 PM
Subject: [PES_BMM] Re: Great deal on NEO32 magnets

[...] I am going to order my magnets today..

Better Gears?

From: Mark Hayton
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 7:36 AM
Subject: [PES_BMM] Possible Stock 3.33" and 6.66" gears.

Hey, I just found a couple of 3.33 and 6.66 gears at 2:1 ratio!  The only thing I don't know is if the two gears could work together since each one is part of a worm gear set. They are on McMaster.. The part numbers are..

57545K211
57545K217 

The only problem with these gears would be he bore, but that could be taken care of with some collars of the right dimensions.

I don't know if these gears only align with the worm or can be directly coupled to each other, if they can, we have our stock source for gears..

Let me know if anyone is familiar with the teeth of the worm gear configuration and if two worm gears mate up..

Thanks..
Mark

Ordering Gears / Specs

From: Mark Hayton
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 6:46 AM
Subject: Mann: [PES_BMM] Re: ordering custom gears set like UNIT 0's who wan t a set??

Doug, based on your calcs I went ahead and ordered the gears. The large gear is not in stock, so I will see how long the ship time is.
I have the rest of my order ready to go based on the McMaster part numbers you gave. Once I have the magnet sizes from you for these gears, my part list is complete. And I will order everything and start the build with off the shelf parts. Although the magnets won't be, they are so easy to order custom magnets from KDS that are made from the same batch that is won't be an issue.

I am looking forward to starting the build.
Mark

--- In PES_BMM@yahoogroups.com, "Sterling D. Allan"
<sterlingda@g...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Douglas@m...>
> To: "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@g...>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Q. Fw: [PES_BMM] Re: ordering custom gears set like
UNIT 0's
> who wan t a set??
>
>
> Mark, Sterling,
>   I just figured the rotor, and my server timed out and it gone.
There is
> not
> munch differance to unit 0.I will do it later. The diameter of the
large
> rotor
> is 7.333333333"Dia to the out side of the magnets edge.The
diameter of the
> small rotor is 3.6666667.
> It goes like this :
> shaft spacing + offset distance of magnets  this  is
4.75"/3=1.58333333"
> (1.583333333 + .25)x 2= diameter =3.6666667
> The large rotor is two time this or 7.33333337
>
> The diameter of the rotors on the UNIT 0 with the 3/8 magnets
3.833333"
> Large rotor is  7.6666666"
>  I will figure UNIToffshelf after I get some sleep.
> Douglas
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mark Hayton
> > To: PES_BMM@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 10:00 PM
> > Subject: [PES_BMM] Re: ordering custom gears set like UNIT 0's
who wan t a
> set??
> >
> >
> > Doug, if you will calc out the Rotors and mag placements for me
then
> > I will use these gears. Everything else I have found off the
shelf
> > except magnets and gears so this just leaves magnets, but K&D
Magnets
> > seems to easily make them and the price is not bad.
> >
> > The only question I still have is the 1 to 4.5 mag ratio.
> > The materials listing says the rotor magnets are
> > 0.375 x 1.75
> > 0.375 * 4.5 = 1.6875
> >
> > So, what is there room to play on the magnet ratio?
> > If so, maybe I can find stock magnets as well.
> > If there is a tolerance to the magnet ratio, what it is +-???
> >
> > Also, how does this change the axle spacing? Are the axles for my
> > gears 4.5" spaced then?

Parts Ordered

From: Mark Hayton
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:39 PM
Subject: [PES_BMM] All parts ordered except magnets

====================================================================
Here are the parts I ordered, the Clear Lexan sheet at .5" for the
whole unit saved me allot of money instead of Delrin and the Lexan
is clear, so it will make a better demo. I don't expect any problems
with the .5 thickness instead of 1".
====================================================================
I also ordered the gears today as well.
====================================================================
I am pretty commited for someone that has not seen a video or been
given any proof that this thing is gong to work. Well, if it doesn't
work then it will make an expensive and cool conversation piece for
my den. It would not be sturdy enough to be a boat anchor. ;)
====================================================================

1 Each 89325K25 Type 316 Stainless Steel Rod 1/2" Diameter, 6'
Length

3 Each 6383K41 Steel Semi-Precision Ball Bearing Plain Open For 1/2"
Shaft Dia, 1-3/8" OD, 7/16"W

3 Each 5908K17 Stainless Steel Ball Bearing -- ABEC-0 For 1/2" Shaft
Diameter, 1-3/8" OD, 7/16" Width 

3 Each 6391K124 SAE 841 Unmounted Plain Bronze Sleeve Bearing For
3/16" Shaft Diameter, 1/4" OD, 1/2" Length 

3 Each 6435K14 One-Piece Clamp-On Collar Steel, 1/2" Bore, 1-1/8"
Outside Dia,13/32" Width

3 Each 6435K34 One-Piece Clamp-On Collar SS, 1/2" Bore, 1-1/8"
Outside Dia, 13/32" Width

2 Each 8574K45 Polycarbonate Sheet 1/2" Thick, 12" X 24", Clear

 

What about Unit 0?

From: Mark Hayton
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 8:09 PM
Subject: [PES_BMM] Purpose

Who in this group is trying to duplicate the Unit 0 of Doug? It seems like everyone is going on a different path, and not focusing Unit 0.
Is  there anyone other than myself that is trying to duplicate Unit 0? If you feel like that you can build a unit based on your own concepts based on the Bowmen motor, then good luck, otherwise, I thought we wanted to discuss a design based upon theory of Doug's working unit. That is my goal. Allot of messages are now going into personal theory. We need to get the final dimensions from Doug so we can duplicate Unit 0.

From: Mark Hayton
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 12:14 PM
Subject: [PES_BMM] Re: Delrin - not available in Clear

--- In PES_BMM@yahoogroups.com, "Sterling D. Allan"
<sterlingda@g...> wrote:
Question:
Would any of these have issues in terms of magnetic interference?
Answer:
I have researched issues of substances in effects of
magnetic shielding and found that there are two categories of substances. Nonpermeable - wood, plastic and any other non-magnetic substance, these do not have any substantial effect on magnetic
fields. Where Permeable substances such as steel act as a magnetic shield. So I don't think any plastic is going to make a difference.

Question:
What is the price differential?  Strength?
Answer:
I have asked one of the major suppliers of plastics to give us information on other plastics that have properties very close to Delrin. Since they made a comment that there are cheaper replacements I think we will find one. Strength: At .5 inches of thickness I don't think we are going to have any problem with that for any plastic we choose.

Question: Hopefully we will be having centripetal forces to contend with.
Answer: True, we would hope that once optimized, that the RPM's will be fast enough to have to worry about that.. And potentially vibration from the magnet moving past each other causes side to side forces. Could start to really vibrate once we get up to speed.

 

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Last updated February 22, 2004

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