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Flux Field Data from MXLO Magnetic Motor Design
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Flux Field Photos from Dann's 1/2-scale Build[See also: Dann's 1/2-scale Replication of the MXLO]
From: "creatr" <creator@flyinghouse.com>
To: <pes_mxlo@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 9:02 PM
Subject: [pes_mxlo] Builder Report
[From] my first 1/2 size build attempt. [...]
Suggestions for Additional Data
From: Sterling
D. Allan
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:21 AM
Subject: [pes_mxlo] flux data ideas for Dann
Dann,
I would be interested to see the flux lines from Ken's MXLO. We
would think they will be the same as your 1/2-scale version, but a confirmation would be nice.
Here are some more things I would like to see by way of flux data to
add the page I've posted at:
- Stator alone, and then Stator when tied into a tripod with two other
stators (paying particular attention to what happens to the flux fields at the left and right ends
of the stator).
- Stator in assembly, close and moved away at set increments;
e.g. 1) film touching, 2) 1/8 " away, 3) 1/4" away; 4) 3/8", etc.
- Same with rotor assembly. (close then incrementally moved back)
- Rotor isolated then Rotor in assembly
- Can you see any difference in rotor flux field when you manually
move the rotor a few degrees off its settling point (at 90 degrees to one of the stators); try 5,
10, 15, etc. degrees removed from 90 degrees.
- Then, repeat that one with the film moved away at increments from
the surface of the rotor.
- Then take a look at the stator flux without and then with the
rotor in place
- Then look at the stator flux as the rotor is moved in increments
away from its 90 degree position relative to one of the three stators.
First, before you go through the trouble of all these variations, I
would be interested to see how "reproducible" the data is from the same set of
circumstance. Maybe the method is too crude to expect to see anything worth noting in the
above suggested procedures. Measurement noise may be greater than the differences being
measured, in which case most of the above suggestions become moot.
If, however, the results are quite repeatable, then the above
suggestions may then become relevant. I would then such a "control"
reading be included with each of the above tests. In other words, each data point should be
taken in duplicate or triplicate.
We're talking a lot of shots and a lot of time to process those shots
into a presentation that is not unwieldy. If you are not inclined to put in that kind of
effort, that's fine.
Depending on how easy the differences are to see from one position to
the next, we could present nine readings at a time in three rows and three columns on the
page. Each column would be a triplicate set, and each row would be a progression of degrees
of change of one particular point of view.
So the pixel size of each picture, if this resolution is clear enough,
would be about 200 pixels wide.
You might also think of a way of securing the camera at a set distance
from the apparatus for each data set so that the angle and distance and exposure is the same.
This kind of attention to detail is what they do at the universities.
Some get so specific in their focus they will study one pheromone of
one species of fly for years.
Maybe when all is done here (after loads of data and publications), we
could offer course credit or even an honorary (albeit token) advanced degree from our
future PES academy. Some day down the road, such a degree may actually carry weight in the
academic world.
Dreaming.
Sterling
* * * * * Will do
From: "creator" <creator@flyinghouse.com>
To: "'Sterling D. Allan'" <sterlingda@greaterthings.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 4:48 PM
Subject: RE: Flux
Hi Sterling, More Flux Data from Dann
Try Getting View from bottom under Aluminum
From: "retrorocket59" <brian@ziponline.com>
To: <pes_mxlo@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:30 AM
Subject: [pes_mxlo] Re: flux data ideas for Dann
the film would be most revealing. It is the action of the aluminum altering the field that is the focal point of the workings of this unit. ---RetroRocket59--- Have Access to Top-Level Measurement Equipment When Time Comes
From: "retrorocket59" <brian@ziponline.com>
To: <pes_mxlo@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:02 AM
Subject: [pes_mxlo] Re: mag field modification by aluminum
thinking about when the rotor is turning, which no one has posted yet. In regards to testing. I have possible to top level testing if this device ever turns and would love to see results. But my interest is in discovery and investigation regardless of the outcome. ---RetroRocket59--- See also
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