MXLO Magnet Motor Open Sourcing Project

Summary: This open sourcing project sponsored by Pure Energy Systems, based on a design by MXLO, commenced Mar. 3, 2004 and was active for about a month. At least 14 (8 verified) replications were built, none of which worked, proving that MXLO plans are neither easy nor complete, contrary to what they insinuate on their site, which now redirects to the U.S. government's renewable energy site. On July 10, a hint about shielding was given that was not contained in the plans.

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Instructions
- Intro
- Bill of Materials
- Assembling
- Templates
- Tips
- Variations
- Cautions

Replications
Working (not verified)
- Neweid(?)
Built; not working
- tip_alias
- Joe Friday
- Ken Hegemann
- Chris H.
- Dann McCreary
- Tero Ranta
- Retrorocket59
- Wayne Jones
- Ed Anderson
- more

Data
- Performance Data
- Non-working
- Flux Field Data
- Electrical Output
- Optimization

Supplemental
- Sourcing
- Ramifications

Theory (How)
- Spiral
- Aluminum
- ZPE

Legal
- MXLO Permission
- MXLO & NDA
- Patents

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o Simulation
o Photos
o AutoCAD
o Video (pending)

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Latest Developments

Chronological report of newest developments on the MXLO Magnet Motor Open Sourcing Project at PES

See also: PES_MXLO Discussion

Reverse Chronological Sequence

July 10, 2004

Clarifications > Shielding Technique - "There is a flailing arm that extends forward to shield the repulsion as it spins."

June 27, 2004

Replications > Dave - says he wants to try a circular rendition instead of triangular.

June 22, 2004

Skeptics > Why Skeptical Comments were Censored for at Time on the PES_MXLO Discussion List

June 3, 2004

Throwing in Towel / Domain Redirects >
MXLO.com and MagnetHealer.com both now point to U.S. Govt. Renewable Energy Site - not sure when redirect began. MXLO / MagnetHealer were the former hosts of the MXLO magnetic motor referenced by this open source project. See Archive.org historic snapshot of MagnetHealer.com beginning Oct. 3, 1999

May 11,12, 2004

Forum >
- MXLO Declared a SCAM - "I would like to see these (may actually talk to the FBI etc) SOBs go to jail for mail fraud etc."
- MXLO Website Down - was up just a week ago
- 'Suspended' Page Looks Fabricated

April 8, 2004

BBB >
- Spyware Installed with MXLO Download?
- I don't see anything bad in there - PES' IT guy.

April 7, 2004

Replications > Steve Wilcken's correspondence with MXLO regarding questions of how to build the device.

April 5, 2004

Business Practices >
- MXLO Replies to Charge of No Refund
- "I ordered the kit when it was available for $89.95 and all I got was access to download the plans which everyone else got for $29.95. I never received the kit of parts. They ignored all correspondence as well and I never received any refunds from them either." (Magellan; April 5, 2004)

April 4, 2004

Business Practices > "On the 10th of March I requested a refund from mxlo and was told my request was accepted. They said refunds may take 7-10 business days, it is now 18 business days and still no refund." (John Berry; April 4, 2004)

April 1, 2004

Site made public. (Had been private to allow time to prove adequacy [or inadequacy] of plans.)

Mar. 31, 2004

Plans > Introduction - The plans are neither easy to follow (too many contradictions and uncertainties) nor adequate to build a working device. If MXLO indeed has a working device (no evidence given), they are not disclosing how to build it. (post to pes_mxlo March 31, 2004)
Plans > Variants > What about Flexible Rotors and/or Stators?

Mar. 28, 2004

Replications > Ronnie Madden: Working on Second Unit

Mar. 27, 2004

Replications > Question for Bible Reader and Ed Anderson (pes_mxlo)

Mar. 26, 2004

Replications > Ed Anderson: Photo Posted

Mar. 25, 2004

Replications > Ed Anderson: Built to Specs, with Attention to Detail; Doesn't Work

Mar. 23, 2004

Replications >
- Ronnie Madden: Machining Stators to hold Ceramic Mags
- Wayne Jones: Built Another Unit; Doesn't Work Yet

Mar. 22, 2004

Replications > Daniel Stockwell hands his device over to Louis Steenhagen

Mar. 20, 2004

Replications >
- Offering (FREE) Rig for Someone to Play With - Daniel Stockwell is willing to let someone else try to get his unit running. Third, unnamed party is willing to cover costs.
- John Clingan: video posted - (unit doesn't work) rectangular stator magnets used.
Shouldn't Give up so Fast on MXLO

Mar. 18, 2004

Replications / Variations > John Clingan: Built w/ Rectangular Stator Magnets; Doesn't Work

Mar. 17, 2004

Theory > Possible Effect of Environmental Perturbations on Magnetic Motor Function

Plans (Discrepancy) > MXLO modifies their "Parts/Plans" page - have added following notice just before the "continue order" button:

PLEASE NOTE: Not everyone will be able to build a working unit simply by reading and following the plans. Adjustment of the assembled unit is required as is patience in performing these adjustments.

Now What? > Forging Ahead -- continuing with MXLO device (for those that wish to) and looking for the next project (for the rest).
Assembly > MXLO Withdraws Tech Support - email correspondence from Thomas Jean March 15, prior to the below exchange (which spurred the below exchange).
Plans (Discrepancy) >
- MXLO Reply: Nothing Amiss; You're Too Impatient
- Statements from MXLO Site That Imply (1) Adequacy of Plans and (2) Ease of Function - which this project has shown to be in error.

Mar. 16, 2004

Plans > An Open Letter to MXLO to Come Clean - Contrary to MXLO website presentation, their plans are not adequate, and the device specified is not easy to get to work. Request for rewording of website and plans to reflect this. Request for making good on word to assist in building a working unit.
Assembly Tips > Communications from MXLO - 8-page compilation by Brian Prothro (RetroRocket59) from personal phone calls from MXLO and all email messages posted to the pes_mxlo Yahoo user group to date.
Champ Trophy Shows MXLO Component on Its Website - Piece built for Tom Ferko of pes_mxlo.
Replications >
- Mike Bellino: Built; Doesn't Work Yet; reported in phone conversation with Sterling.
- Daniel Wood: Built; Doesn't Work Yet
Data > Non-working > Pumping Action Did Not Work
Variations > Try Pumping Action?

Mar. 15, 2004

Links Page (new) > Russian Torsion/Spin Field Research
Assembly Tips >
- Like Threading a Needle from Across the Room
- Plans Call for Zinc-Plated Neos; but they are not Required for Operation (MXLO)
Catch-up > Mar. 13 > More tips from MXLO compiled by RetroRocket59

Mar. 14, 2004

Bill of Materials > Zink Coating; Mag. Source = Japan
Assembly Tips >
- Not Same Position Starting as Running (MXLO)
- Use fine thread to find triangle center
Assembly Instructions > Arrows up (top side) on Stator
Replications > Wayne Jones' Replication of the MXLO Magnetic Motor
Data > Non-Performing (new) >
- Fiddling Around: Pulsing the Rotor
- 6 Sticky Spots per Revolution
Catch-up
- Mar. 12: Tero Ranta's replication

Mar. 13, 2004

Assembly Tips > More tips from MXLO compiled by RetroRocket59
Replications > Chris Horianopoulos' Replication of the MXLO Magnetic Motor
Glossary (new) > Dielectric - definition and link to more in-depth explanation

Mar. 12, 2004

Replications > Tero Ranta's Replication of the MXLO Magnetic Motor
Patents > European patent office has a much larger selection of online patents
Translations of MXLO Magnetic Motor Open Sourcing Project - soliciting translations of synopsis into foreign languages.

Mar. 11, 2004

Replications >
- RetroRocket59
- Joe Friday - chronicle page created
Tips >
- Stator Template -- Arrows Up
- Imbalance May be the Objective non-symmetry may be our friend: "Magnet placement shown in picture is correct placement."
- Set Apparatus on Non-Mag. Table
- Coming into Focus
- Follow the Plans to the Letter
Theory > Possible Effect of Environmental Perturbations on Magnetic Motor Function
Patents >
Replications > RetroRocket59: Ready to Build to Specs
Data > Electrical > Procedures > Tuning w/ Scope
Moved from "Tips" to "Variations" >
Admin > pes_mxlo Discussion List Moderation Policies
Variations >
- Ground the Aluminum Strip
- What about raising each Stator Corner Slightly -- Vortex Effect
FAQ (new) > Q. Why don't they just sell a fully adjusted working unit?

Mar. 10, 2004

Variations >
- Nylon Rods for Micro Adjustment; Misc. Retro.
- Plastic Screws to Secure and Adjust Magnets
Legal > MXLO Innovations® Bound by NDA Terms - MXLO is limited in what they can share with us; but our open source site is not limited in publishing what we discover on our own. (From the you-can-lead-a-horse-to-water department.)
Patents > MXLO Cannot Divulge Info About Relevant Patents
Data >
- Flux Field Data dialogue - several messages going back and forth discussing data collected last night, both from photos and from computer-generated simulations.
- Have Access to Top-Level Measurement Equipment When Time Comes
- Try Getting View from bottom under Aluminum
Conference > Sterling in dialogue with MXLO to try and get a phone conference going for the purpose of addressing replication questions. It may be several days before this materializes.

Mar. 9, 2004

Data >
- Flux Field Data - Computer Generated, Theoretical, by brian165
- Suggestions for Additional Flux Field Data - proposed by Sterling
Assembly Tips >
- Templates > Dimensions from MXLO: Stator = 10" x 3"; Rotor = 4" x 1.5"
- Templates > Scale it to exactly 10"x3" inches to the outer black outline on the templates
- Wire Gauge Conversion Chart
- Finding North on Your Magnet, Without a Compass
- Solder of Bearing not Essential
Replications >
Ramifications > Free Energy Ramifications on Food Production - free energy will enable year-round greenhouses, and heating of homes, solving not just the energy, but food and water crises. (Exclusive from R. Engineer, sent with MXLO project in mind, published at Greater Things News Service)
pes_mxlo List Business > IMPORTANT: list now on moderated status; spoke w/ Thomas - whining has to go. This is to be a professional list. Need to focus on replicating plans as they are first.
- Edison says: 10% inspiration and 90% perspiration, let's get to work (Dann McCreary)
- Happy Now? - all the wining cost us a timely release of a video that could have helped those serious about replicating (Kenny)
Variations > What about Circular Stators?
Theory (new) > MXLO Function and ZPE

Mar. 8, 2004

Permissions > Role of PES and role of MXLO
Assembly Tips >
Data (new) > Electrical Output
Skeptics Page (new) > 9 Reasons for Doubt - by Anthony Armstrong
Assembly Variations > Secure the Shaft -- No Wobble
Replications >
- Hegemann: New Assembly; not working yet. Secured the Shaft -- No Wobble
- Dann McCreary: more photos; magnets were backward; still not working
- Performance > Neweid - "It turns but only about 15 rpm sometimes 20 if I adjust the air gap." (Announced on VonBraun chat board on Feb. 25, 2004)
Adsitt Controversy >
- 1. Don Adsitt posts an open letter to MXLO tentative to adding them to his "scams" page [pes_mxlo 228]
- 2. Adsitt publicly says to MXLO "I am adding your site to the Scam list as well as contacting the Attorney General concerning fraudulent advertising and sales using InterCommerce."
- 3. Sterling Allan rebuts Don Adsitt -- "you haven't given them enough time to prove themselves"
- 4. Shukra adds to Allan's rebuttal; puts onus on Adsitt to clarify his motives and protocol for determining a scam.
Videos of Working MXLO Magnetic Motors - pending
Assembly Templates > Free ems Software for CAD files

Mar. 7, 2004

Replications >
- RetroRocket59: Rebuilding Tues or Wed; Laser Cutting; adjust nobs for x-y control of Stators
- Ken Gerke - built March 7; not working yet.
- Hegemann: Built to Specs, Does Not Work; In Dialogue w/ MXLO
Assembly Variations (new) >
- Screw Rods to Adjust X-Y Movement of Stator
- Hard Drive = Precision Rotor Bearing; Shoe Goo
Patents Relevant to MXLO Magnetic Motor
Assembly > Assembly Templates for MXLO Magnetic Motor
Assembly Tips >
General Information Helpful to MXLO Replication and Understanding > Aluminum Interaction with Magnets

Mar. 6, 2004

Data > Flux Field Photos from Dann's 1/2-scale Build
Assembly Cautions! (new) > Don't let the Stator Plates get Too Close!
Replications >
- Dann - Photos & Observations from 1/2-size Build Attempt; Flux Lines Photos
- Ronnie Madden - built using 50% variance in dimensions; doesn't work yet.
- tip_alias - "don't get stator sheets too close!"
- Ken Hegemann: Made New Stator Plates

Mar. 5, 2004

Replications >
- tip_alias - Assembled; no rotation yet.
- Hegemann: Square Magnets to be replaced by Round
- Hegemann: lacking diode and copper wire, will work on it again tonight
- Redoing it w/ 1/4" plastic - RetroRocket59 having problems with magnets popping off because of flimsy material.
- A Visit to Ken Hegemann - Dann drops in to see Ken's shop and take photos of MXLO assembly in progress.

Mar. 4, 2004

Essay > Ramifications of MXLO Magnetic Motor
Purchasing Plans from MXLO - reasons & link
Assembly Tips (new) >
Replications in Progress (new) >
- Retrorocket59 - has build device, does not work yet, list of tips from phone call from Thomas of MXLO
- Ken Hegemann - has materials, will be assembling March 4, reporting March 5
- tip_alias - has materials except not proper magnets; trying with alt. magnets, March 4
Sourcing Materials for the MXLO Magnetic Motor - index created
(this) Latest Developments page created
Permission from MXLO to Post Their Copyrighted Plans - page posted

Mar. 3, 2004

Pure Energy Systems (PES) posts password protected site hosting MXLO plans.
- Plans index page created
- Bill of Materials page posted
- Assembly page posted; images compressed
- Home page created
- Contact page created
PES_MXLO discussion group formed (nearly 70 members by end of the day)
- 23. image compression - where to download compressed version of MXLO images.
- 14. [Report of phone conversation between Thomas Jean of MXLO and Sterling Allan of PES] - notes that MXLO throws in some erroneous info about copper windings on their online version of the plans, but the paying customers get the correct information.
- 12. correspondence from MXLO - compilation of statements of permission
- 9. Similarities to Mikell Device
- 3. Spoke w/ PES Head Engineer about MXLO
PES receives permission from Thomas Jean of MXLO to post their plans for PES users.

Feb. 28, 2004

FE_Updates > MXLO Magnetic Motor DC Generator Plans
"MagnetHealer.com offers a kit as well as a complete set of plans to build what they claim will be a working electricity generating unit of approximately one cubic foot in size (scalable), producing in the range of 50 - 280 V DC, taking 45 minutes to build."
Mark Wiseman told Sterling Allan about MXLO, and Sterling created the FreeEnergy.GreaterThings.com index featuring the technology. Lodges nearly 700 visits in first 24 hours.

Index created by SDA March 4, 2004
Last updated July 10, 2004 07:55:20 PM MST

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