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Patents Relevant to MXLO Magnetic Motor

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See also: Most recent messages as pes_mxlo mentioning "patent"

• Need for Search
  • MXLO Cannot Divulge Info About Relevant Patents
  • Solving the riddle -- searching for relevant patents
  • Physical Paper Patent Search Should Also be Done
  • Thoughts About Being Open - restriction not likely
• Clues
  • Short list
  • What MXLO says on their website
  • Some names that start with X
• Search Tools
  • European patent office has a much larger selection of online patents
• Related Patents
  • Initial patent searches, some hits.....
  • Some more relevant patent finds
  • Continuous Electrical Generator
  • Assembling a list of relevant patents (Dan LaRochelle)

Need for Search

MXLO Cannot Divulge Info About Relevant Patents

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Solving the riddle -- searching for relevant patents

As we attempt to solve this riddle of getting this device to work, now that we have built it, one thing we can do is to conduct a patent search on the various components of the MXLO design and theory. Reading between the lines from Thomas' communications, there are some patents that could be very helpful. His NDA prohibits him from telling us what those are, but we are under no such restraints.

We need to tap into all possible resources that may help us to solve the riddle. Group members can all get involved and someone may come up with a patent or two that discloses the device or something similar. As many know, a patent is published as a means of teaching the public about something novel. If there is a patent on this (or a similar device), the text of the patent itself will tell us how to make the device work.

We have access to the same tools that are available to patent attorneys who conduct patent searches. The search is conducted on the Internet at www.uspto.gov. Anyone with reasonably good computer skills can do this. The important thing is to come up with good key words that will send the search in the right direction. You just have to get creative and come up with terms that you think best describe the device. As you go through a search, it will become clear that different key words lead you in different directions and point you toward different patents. Once you locate a patent that is even remotely similar to the device, you look on the title page of that patent and it will have a list of Referenced Patents. By looking up those referenced patents, you are then able to build on your list by checking out the next list of referenced patents etc, etc.

One note, this electronic database only goes back to 1976. To search older patents, a trip to a BIG city library is necessary. There you can conduct a search on microfilm. Once a group member locates a patent of interest, they can post it and other members can use this information to search even further. It would be helpful if members would post some of the key words that produce good search results.

According to the MXLO website, this design has been around for decades, so actually, the likelihood of the key patent being pre-1976 is high. However, post 1976 patents might reference the earlier patent. Obviously, before the advent of the Internet and of the computer, the USPTO had means of searching their database, and those means can still be employed.

One hint that Thomas has given us (last week) is that the name MXLO contains the initials of the inventor, who is now in his 80s. The "O" does not stand for anything. The M is not one of the initials (stands for "magnet"?).

While Thomas cannot outright divulge the answer, he does seem to want us to find it, and has been helpful in leading us in the right direction.

Let the hunt begin.

Ken Hegemann
Sterling Allan

Physical Paper Patent Search Should Also be Done

[patents do expire ]

Thoughts About Being Open

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My thoughts about being open here... If this concept is already owned by some military or government agency and considering how many patents are out there, that possibility of someone having a leg to stand on in secreting off to get rich on a patent is bad odds.  For example, I think 30 years ago when Raleigh or Norelco invented a shaving cream can that foamed warm cream; the only thing they could patent was the 90-degree crook in the neck of a delivery tube at the bottom of the can.  In contrast, the number of people patenting 'mechanical' rotating arrangements over the last 100 years is in effect - astounding.  And for one to additionally create a novel and provable theory on the generation of energy... like I said, haven't they had these concepts being pulled from the public for over 50 years? 

---RetroRocket59---

Possible Patent Questions of MXLO

Clues

Short List

• Inventor is still alive, associated with MXLO in some way.
• Inventor is in his 80's
• Invention took place in the 1930's?
• MXLO contains the inventor's initials.  O does not stand for anything, and M stands for magnet?  Thus: XL?
• MXLO is under NDA to not disclose certain related patents.

(Sterling)

Here is what MXLO says on their website:

http://magnethealer.com/faq.html#3

Search Tools

European patent office has a much larger selection of online patents

Related Patents

• Initial patent searches, some hits.....
• Some more relevant patent finds (
• Continuous Electrical Generator
• Assembling a list of relevant patents (Dan LaRochelle)

Related Patent: Continuous Electrical Generator

From: Larry Rand
To: pes_ee@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [pes_ee] mag motor variant idea


Sterling,

Here is a patent application for a " continuous electrical generator" that uses the "electrically" rotating magnetic field to produce power. --No moving parts. Same concept you are asking about --but generator application

Patent APPLICATION Number: 20020125774
APPLICATION date was September 12 2002

See also

• Permission by MXLO for PES to post their plans (Mar. 3, 2004)

Index created by SDA March 7, 2004
Last updated March 14, 2004 04:21:31 PM MST

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