Ken Hegemann's MXLO Magnetic Motor replicationMXLO Magnet Motor Open Sourcing Project

Summary: This open sourcing project sponsored by Pure Energy Systems, based on a design by MXLO, commenced Mar. 3, 2004 and was active for about a month.  At least 14 (8 verified) replications were built, none of which worked, proving that MXLO plans are neither easy nor complete, contrary to what they insinuate on their site, which now redirects to the U.S. government's renewable energy site. On July 10, a hint about shielding was given that was not contained in the plans.

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MXLO Innovations® Bound by NDA Terms

General nature of what may and may not be disclose from MXLO to us.

Essence: "We are not the inventors of this device, so we are limited to what we can disclose, this including patents that may be connected, documented, withheld, or ordered against full disclosure. We have an agreement that we must legally respect in regards to how we offer the device. There is a reason we cannot tell anyone exactly how to operate the unit, but in open sourcing, it will be the experimentation of each builder that will lead them to discovery of the unit's functions, and how to augment it's use." (Thomas Jean, MXLO, March 10, 2004)

Correspondence from MXLO

To: "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@pureenergysystems.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Q/A call scheduled tentatively: 8:00 pm mst

Hi Sterling,

It will take a few days before our group can assemble to discuss the matter of a conference call. This was an idea that I had suggested during our phone conversation, but one that my partners were not informed of. This will also need to fit into the schedule of our attorney, which I have yet to approach about the idea.

It may also require that you sign an advanced non-disclosure agreement because of information that may correlate to the device, but which may necessitate disclosure prior to this arrangement. I will contact you when we have completed our discussion.

Thomas Jean

http://www.mxlo.com
http://www.magnethealer.com

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To: "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@pureenergysystems.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: MXLO Conference.

Sterling,

As I have stated from the start of our correspondence, we are not the inventors of this device, so we are limited to what we can disclose, this including patents that may be connected, documented, withheld, or ordered against full disclosure. We have an agreement that we must legally respect in regards to how we offer the device. There is a reason we cannot tell anyone exactly how to operate the unit, but in open sourcing it will be the experimentation of each builder that will lead them to discovery of the unit's functions, and how to augment it's use. In agreeing to openly discuss the device via a phone conference our attorney may insist on the non-disclosure of certain information that we may be required to present to you prior to our conference. Otherwise, we must say for educational purposes only, and limit the conference to what is already disclosed about the device.

Thomas Jean

http://www.mxlo.com
http://www.magnethealer.com

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To: "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@greaterthings.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: MXLO & NDA

Sterling,

A non-disclosure may not even be required, but is something I want you to be aware of before we conclude the conference preparations. The resolution of such will be left to our attorney.

If it is gist of patent information that is disclosed, then you will be obligated not to disclose it on your website, or any connected forums.

Thomas Jean

http://www.mxlo.com
http://www.magnethealer.com


Sterling's Comment in Reply

From: Sterling D. Allan
To: PES MXLO project egroup
Cc: PES Legal egroup
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:34 PM
Subject: [pes_mxlo] IMPORTANT: MXLO Innovations® Bound by NDA Terms

The above correspondence came as a result of my seeking to facilitate a conference call with Thomas that the members of pes_mxlo could call in to, in which he would talk with those who have replicated the device per the specs, and help them understand now how to do the final adjustments required to get it to work. We would use a free conference service of freeconference.com that can allow up to 100 callers at once. There is a setting in which only those germane to the discussion can talk, and everyone else is muted -- able to listen only.

I made this suggestion last week, and Thomas followed up this morning. The above dialogue contains excerpts of that conversation.

What came out of this dialogue is the revelation that MXLO is under the legal constraint of an NDA that specifies what they may and may not divulge -- mainly pertaining to inventor identity, relevant patents, and such. The most crucial words are "we cannot tell anyone exactly how to operate the unit." But, they are free to get a person close enough that they will hopefully make the final crucial discoveries themselves.

I personally think they should disclose these terms up front in their offer of plans to build the device, and I will be encouraging them to do so both on their site and in the plans themselves.

This is a very major revelation.

Once again we up the ante, raise the bar. This task grows more difficult as we go, but I think most of you are up to it.

Personally, I like it this way. If we are going to prove the merit of this open source approach, this is an ideal way to do it. We are not just being spoon fed. We are collectively serving the role of inventor. We will make the discovery together.

I will predict that no one of us will singularly figure everything out. But rather, it will be through a common sharing that will enable this holy grail to be unfolded.

Greed cannot be our motive. Personal glory cannot be our motive.

Our motive needs to be pure -- to bring this technology forward to bless the lives of mankind.

I have a friend, JJ Dewey, who is a teacher of advanced religious philosophy that is kind of akin to the world of Free Energy. He teaches things that push the envelope far beyond what is accepted in the mainstream norm. I've known him for about four years, and created a website to feature his work: jjwritings.com.

He tends to teach this way. He does not spoon feed. Rather, he asks a question and lets the "students" banter it around for quite some time, sometimes months. It is in that process that when the answer is finally achieved that it is appreciated and remembered far better than if it were just given with no effort on the part of the student.

That is where we are at.

We are hungry for the answer. We believe there is an answer. Now, rather than our teacher/Thomas just telling us straight out, the onus is on us to arrive at the final steps.

I personally do not wish to be brought under NDA, unless a very strong case can be made, and the board of directors of PES agrees that it is the right course to take.

Rather, I would prefer to be unbound, so that when we do arrive at the answer together, I will be unfettered in my ability to publish the results.

Your thoughts?

In closing, I would like to address a question that I'm sure is raised in your minds. "If they cannot tell exactly how to make it, why are they publishing plans to do so, as if the plans are adequate?"

My response is as follows, and I realize some of you might find this to be a stretch.

This is total hunch-work on my part, but I offer it as an assumption I would like to make in their defense until shown otherwise. It is based on a premise that there is a God who orchestrates the events on this planet through the aid of many angels, and that those who seek to live good lives are the most malleable to the influence of these angels, to bring about God's work on the earth.

This technology is meant to come forth. They know it, and they desire to see that happen as well.

When the wrote the plans, as an oversight, they did not think to include the notification about the fact that they are under legal constraint from divulging everything necessary to build the device successfully. They have a working unit in front of them, and for them this final step is as natural and obvious as anything, and they are assuming that if they get a person far enough, they will also arrive at that final step.

Remember the story of Raiders of the Lost Ark (I think it was that one of the trilogy), where Harrison Ford steps off into the abyss, but it turned out to be an optical illusion, and there was actually a path there.

Now that we have jointly arrived at that point of seeming dead end, we now are informed together that we must together forge ahead.

Let's do it.

That is my stance, and invite you to join me.

If you are not up to it, please don't pester those of us who are.

Sincerely,

Sterling D. Allan
Director of Administration
www.pureenergysystems.com


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