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Joe Friday's Replication of the MXLO Magnetic MotorAlong with friend, Chad.
6 Sticky Spots per Revolution
From: "joefriday0001" <acg_1001@yahoo.com>
To: <pes_mxlo@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:45 AM
Subject: [pes_mxlo] Re: Comments and fiddling around....
There sure are 6 sticky spots per rotor revolution. Not only can you feel them, but just look and think about how the magnets are aligned when in those positions (the six magnets I have been talking about)......Now look at the other end of the rotor (its almost twice as far away from any magnetic force, nothing to get the rotor out of those sticky positions. I had to draw a picture of the 6 magnets, then saw the light.... The sliding magnet on the aluminum sure is a cool way to see how aluminum and magnets will react to each other....But, think about how close you had to have the magnet and the aluminum, on top of each other, right? The aluminum strip in this motor is 3cm away from the inside magnets, and up to 4cm away from the 2 far magnets that get you into the sticky spot.... In other words, in order for aluminum to help you get past any sticky spots, it would have to be MUCH closer than 3 or 4 cm. IMO. At the distance the aluminum is now, the rotor probably doesn't even know it exists.... Joe no voltage output 0-1000 rpm
From: "joefriday0001" <acg_1001@yahoo.com>
To: <pes_mxlo@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 7:15 PM
Subject: [pes_mxlo] New photo, voltage test
I just added a voltage test picture in the photos section "joe" folder.....
Ask me any questions you might have.... * * * * *
From: "joefriday0001" <acg_1001@yahoo.com>
To: <pes_mxlo@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 8:59 PM
Subject: [pes_mxlo] Aluminum Strip - Voltage (3-13-04 report)
using an eighty dollar digital volt meter.... 0 volts out..... Joe * * * * *
From: "joefriday0001" <acg_1001@yahoo.com>
To: <pes_mxlo@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:51 PM
Subject: [pes_mxlo] Re: New photo, voltage test
> Joe, your photo looks like you have a metal rotor shaft? Or did you > say earlier it was plastic? Its wood. About two feet, the drill is running the rotor from the bottom.. (see photo).. Base is clear Plexiglas...Wanted to keep everything like it should be in the rotor/motor area..... > > About the voltage readings, the field generated when the unit spins > itself would have to be very unique, and it might be that readings > will not appear until this field manifests itself. Rotating it > manually is revealing but I wonder it is the final answer. I'm sure it won't be the final answer for a lot of people :-) When the scope line doesn't move at all, and your trying millions of combinations by moving the stator and rotor around, that tells you something. IMO. > Good follow through! Thanks! Joe 3 Sticky Spots (Photo w/ Text Markings)
From: "joefriday0001" <acg_1001@yahoo.com>
To: <pes_mxlo@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 9:22 PM
Subject: [pes_mxlo] photo added
I added a photo that should help explain what I am saying, if
Rotor-Stator Position Don't Lend to Rotation?
From: "joefriday0001" <acg_1001@yahoo.com>
To: <pes_mxlo@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 5:14 PM
Subject: [pes_mxlo] Re: One Question...Rotor close to stator
position
> Does the rotor it move a little bit? (when moving the stator) > > or > > Not at all... > That question fits perfect with what I was about to report. 1. When the one "rotor end" and stator wall are the CLOSEST [about 2 cm] (strongest magnetic reaction between the two of course) you have this config: Left top of rotor is N and being pulled towards a S pole. Left Bottom of rotor is S and being pulled towards a N pole. Right top of rotor is S and being pulled towards a N pole. Right bottom of rotor is N and being pulled towards a S pole. The other end of the rotor is far away from magnets at this time, magnets are about 3cm from any other magnets on this other end) pointing towards a corner - so, we don't care about this for now. The most power/attraction is going to be when the rotor and stator wall are the closest, right? Yes.... So, yes, if I turn the triangle/stator around in a circle, the rotor will follow it, (not a good sign) This also means, that the rotor Wants to stay in any of the three "close to stator" sections (2cm apart) I now see nothing that will push the rotor into the next "rotor close to stator" point. Why would it want to go? when you have 6 magnets all pulling at each other in this "rotor close to stator" position (2cm apart) Anyone? Joe * * * * *
From: "joefriday0001" <acg_1001@yahoo.com>
To: <pes_mxlo@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 5:46 PM
Subject: [pes_mxlo] 3 sticky points - Rotor close to stator
position
The point here is, look at how close the end 2 rotor magnets are when they are closest to the stator (about 2 cm). At that point, you have 6 magnets pulling towards each other, the rotor wants to touch that wall, not turn. The other end of the rotor's magnets are up to 3 cm away from any other magnets. If your rotor magnets are perfect square, or like in the template, they are still the closest to the stator at that point, and will want to stay at that point. I can't see how this can possible run, the rotor has three main sticky points to turn through. Joe Photo Posted
From: "joefriday0001" <acg_1001@yahoo.com>
To: <pes_mxlo@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:21 PM
Subject: [pes_mxlo] first motor pic
Joe Finished: Can see need for a few changes -- later
From: "joefriday0001" <acg_1001@yahoo.com>
To: <pes_mxlo@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:10 PM
Subject: [pes_mxlo] Re: environmental perturbations?
see some major changes it needs, but I'll save all that for later.... Break, and then a few pics, maybe scope shots soon..... Joe How are the Leads to be attached?
From: "joefriday0001" <acg_1001@yahoo.com>
To: <pes_mxlo@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 8:42 PM
Subject: [pes_mxlo] Ceramic motor will be tested soon for voltage
than the ones in 1930 - not sure - I found about (55) 3/4" x 3/16" ceramic magnets left over from past motor experiments. The rotor magnets are to spec. >> I want to mention that if this device was invented in 1930, there >> were no Neo magnets. MXLO said ceramics would work but produced >> poorer results. Poor results would be fine with me, I assume poor is better than not working, or no voltage. I will purchase the remaining 3/4" magnets and go with what MXLO said about ceramic magnets. I'll do voltage readings with a scope, digital and analog meter using a variable drill turning the rotor [with a long wood bit or other non magnetic bit/rod to keep the drill far away] If the motor spins on its own, I won't have to use the drill of course:) And now, this part that really doesn't make sense to me. So, we are suppose to measure the voltage from the copper wire on one lead, and the aluminum strip as the other lead, right? CONFIG A: The only way I can see the copper wire configured, is wrapped twice like they say, then connect both ends of the copper wire together, and into the diode, and that will be, lets say the positive end of the "generator". - and lets say the base aluminum strip is the negative. CONFIG B: Or, are we suppose to get the voltage reading just from the copper wire, like a normal coil around a moving magnet? That makes more sense, but, I think this is not how its to be done with this device, So, I will assume config A, but will probably end up testing both methods anyway, that part is pretty simple..... Joe * * * * *
From: "joefriday0001" <acg_1001@yahoo.com>
To: <pes_mxlo@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:08 PM
Subject: [pes_mxlo] Copper Wire Configurations
CONFIG C: Wrap the copper wire twice as directed, and just leave one end "open" and connect the other end to the diode, then to your meter for testing. Must be "C" Anyone know for sure? Joe Last of magnets coming tomorrow
From: "joefriday0001" <acg_1001@yahoo.com>
To: <pes_mxlo@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 4:37 PM
Subject: [pes_mxlo] Re: Video editing
Chad, are you reading this? I'll get the last bunch of magnets tomorrow.... Joe Now Building One
From: "joefriday0001" <acg_1001@yahoo.com>
To: <pes_mxlo@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 11:03 PM
Subject: [pes_mxlo] "Not everyone will get the unit running as
it takes patience"
how it could possibly work... I'll be getting plans soonThis group's motor should be duplicated very soon, then I would think many will order plans, including me.... Sterling, are you building one? Can't wait for the first duplication! It does look like it would only take 45min to build as thay say...... Joe See also
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